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yux_mm
 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 15:56 
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Care e diferenta de greutate intre setup-ul actual si cel nou? asa, aproximativ...
Acum ai 305 sau 330?

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 17:25 
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Cred ca se refera la greutatea set-up-ului actual si cel OE...

Spre exemplu etrierii Brembo OE (330) cu placute, suporti si discuri Brembo au aproximativ 15 kg.
AP Racing si rotors ar trebui sa fie mai light. :)

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 18:19 
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Sunt diametru mai mare, deci probabil tot pe acolo.

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 18:55 
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O masuratoare cat mai exacta in momentul montarii sunt sigur ca nu strica, orice kg scazut/adaugat se simte, cu atat mai mult cu cat face parte din trenul de rulare si automat influenteaza comportamentul pe pista al masinii.
Nu stiu in cazul franelor, insa la ansamblul janta/anvelopa, fiind masa in miscare, un kg static rezulta intr-o masa in miscare de 10kg, deci atunci merita sa cauti jante mai usoare.

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 21:15 
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Vor fi ceva mai usoare, nu stiu cat inca. Rotoarele de 356mm au 7kg, iar discurile de 330mm peste 10kg. Nu am gasit greutatea etrierelor brembo insa asa ca astept sa le pun pe cantar.

Pistonase sunt destule, e un caz de-ala rar unde mai mult nu e neaparat mai bine :)

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2016, 21:27 
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George, greutatea rotorului conteaza la fel de mult ca cea a jentii, este masa in miscare. Tot ansamblul suspensie-roata (janta+cauciuc+etrier+disc+brate) conteaza atunci cand e vorba de miscarea pe verticala. Cu cat e drumul mai denivelat si ansamblul mai greu, vei avea o comportare mai proasta. Pe circuit unde asfaltul e destul de neted, conteaza mai putin. Pe circuit conteaza mai mult masa in miscare, asa cum ai zis si tu.

Dar din cate vad e posibil sa ajunga tot pe acolo cu setup-ul oem. Deci din punctul asta de vedere nici o schimbare. Rotorul mai usor s-ar putea sa faca usor diferenta. Dar adevarata schimbare ar trebui sa fie la franare.
Oricum, de curiozitate, cand iti vin toate piesele pune-le pe cantar, rotor si etrier cu placute. Si fa o comparatie cu ce ai acum, setup-ul oem.

@Mugur: ma refeream la rotor+etrier. Primele GTA-uri am inteles ca au venit cu discuri de 305mm diametru si etrieri pe masura. Ulterior au schimbat in 330mm si etrieri pe masura datorita problemelor de fading aparute la utilizare intensa. Asa ca multi cu GTA-uri din primele generatii fac upgrade-ul asta.
Sper sa nu gresesc, asa ca daca am zis prostii sa ma corecteze cineva.

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2017, 12:45 
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Am reusit sa duc masina pentru upgrade-urile de primavara. Printre altele, s-a montat kit-ul nou de frane, un oil cooler kit cu radiatorul mai mare si un ventilator mai mic si (mult) mai usor.

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PostPosted: 02 Mar 2017, 12:54 
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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
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Este într-un fel, Bravo Scociule !


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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2017, 17:45 
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Ce placute ai pus scociule?

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Etrierele nu sunt monobloc: https://www.apracing.com/drawings/CP9660-1CD.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Placutele sunt Ferodo DSUNO.

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
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am vazut dupa
nu mai puteam sa editez

much fail :(

foarte misto placutele :dribble:

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
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pff... cat de adevarat arata!Keep up the good job! :clapping:

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Semnificativa diferenta de greutate. "Miezul" discului e cumva din aluminiu?

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 Post subject: Re: My Alfa 156 GTA
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Da, personalizat chiar.

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Cateva poze de la ultima cursa ROTAC.
Masina a mers foarte bine, eu mai putin bine, dar am reusit sa leg cateva dure cat sa urc pe locul 2 in una din cele mai disputate clase de concurs, cu primii 5 clasati in mai putin de 2 secunde. Timpul cel mai bun a fost 2:00.6. O sa fie o lupta tare pana la final pentru castigarea campionatului :)
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Bravo George pentru timpul scos si pentru performanta de la clasa Street+ (lider :clapping: )! A inceput lumea sa laude din ce in ce mai des Alfa Romeo la circuit, lucru care nu poate sa fie decat bun. Ne vedem la track days si la etapa urmatoare.


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succes , va tin pumnii :) .

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Bravoo! Esti pe urmele lui Senna (dupa hanorac)? :D

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Nu prea gasesc timp sa mai scriu update-uri pe aici, dar las cateva poze sa ramana la "arhiva". Asa s-a incheiat sezonul trecut:


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9821rpm? E corect sau vreo eroare?
Nu e cam mult peste valoarea stock? Sau s-au operat modificari si ale internelor motorului?

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E foarte mult, da :uhuh:
S-a intamplat de 2 ori, cand a cedat cutia, sarea din treapta, iar limitarea turatiei a fost pierduta pe drum la resoftare.
A 3-a oara o sa fie cu "noroc" probabil.

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