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Alfie
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 12:21 
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Salutare,

Sunt nou pe forum si proaspat posesor de Alfa 156 1.8 16v, masina pe care mi-am dorit-o de foarte mult timp.
Toate bune si frumoase, pana la o groapa care mi-a spart baia de ulei, nu am vazut si am "reusit" sa merg fara ulei cativa km, si se aduce un ticait, nu foarte puternic, dar m-a speriat mai ales cand am sesizat ca nu am ulei.
Am reparat baia de ulei(sudat), un mecanic mi-a spus ca am doua biele "dislocate", un alt mecanic in schimb mi-a spus ca sunt tachetii...
As aprecia foarte mult daca imi poate recomanda cineva un mecanic care stie la Alfa, sau un service cu tarife.. mai spre mediu ar fi ideal.


Va multumesc.
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alexmirica
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:14 
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Cum adica biele "dislocate"? N-am auzit de asa ceva...

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Alfie
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:18 
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adica au joc din ce mi s-a spus.
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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:26 
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Pai ele trebuie sa aibe un anumit joc, e normal, altfel pe unde vrei sa isi faca ungerea?!? Jocul acela nu trebuie sa depaseasca un anumit nivel, drept urmare daca tot ai dat baia jos mecanicul tau putea macar sa dea o biela jos sa masoare sa vada ce si cum...

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Alfie
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:35 
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Dar se poate sa fie si tachetii..?
In afara de zgomot nu s-a intamplat nimic, parca e diesel.
Cel care mi-a spus ca ar fi tachetii a pomenit ceva de un zgomot infernal daca ar fi de la biele.
Am uitat sa precizez ca nu s-a aprins nici un martor pe bord.
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alexmirica
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:44 
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Pai daca batea o biela, te asigur ca ai fi auzit cu siguranta o bataie distincta, care devine infernala odata cu cresterea turatiei...

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Alfie
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 13:52 
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Ai idee de unde pot cumpara si cat costa, o sa iau cota la cea care bate, presupun ca gasesc nu?
p.s. multumesc mult pentru interventie!
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alexmirica
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008, 23:55 
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Nu ai ce sa le faci, degeaba le schimbi... scoate tachetii, descarca-i, pune ulei bun in motor si gata.

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Alfie
PostPosted: 17 Jul 2008, 10:25 
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In concluzie pot circula cu ea? Nu afecteaza vibrochenu sau ceva ?
Mi-e frica sa nu stric motoru de tot.
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PostPosted: 17 Jul 2008, 11:56 
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Teoretic nu are nici pe dreacu...

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Alfie
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2008, 12:30 
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Multumesc!
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katlin
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alexmirica Quote:
Nu ai ce sa le faci, degeaba le schimbi... scoate tachetii, descarca-i, pune ulei bun in motor si gata.
Cum adica sa-i descarci? Nu-i de-ajuns sa-i schimbi uleiul?

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Nu, ca uleiul vechi ramane in tacheti orice i-ai face. Pana nu ii scoti si ii descarci, pot ramane blocati, si de aici sunetul de tacheti.

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georgeg
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Doar ca dupa ce ii descarci de ulei si pui uleiul nou in motor s-ar putea sa mai ai putin timp acel sunet de bataie de tachet pana isi vor trage iar ulei tachetii.

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katlin
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Si acel ulei bun sa fie Selenia turbodiesel? (2.4jtd)

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O mica intrebare sper sa nu fiu offtopic - pentru Mirica.

La segmentarea motorului masinii nu mi-au dezamorsat tachetii (cred),pentru ca la prima cheie au inceput sa tacane ... are ceva daca merg cu ei asa?

In timp exista vreo sansa sa isi dea drumu? precizez ca am pus Selenia 10w 40, inainte de a fi segmentat pe Valvoline Maxlife nu imi faceau asa, desi a mai fost data chiuloasa jos pentru a schimba supapele.
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PostPosted: 21 Nov 2012, 23:42 
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Daca "ticaie", posibil tacheti.
Daca sunt tachetii, se poate incerca descarcarea sau varianta mai sigura, inlocuirea.
Insa asta ar fi cel mai fericit caz in care te-ai putea afla dupa evenimentul cu baia de ulei.
Recomand un test de compresie si o verificare amanuntita a cuzinetilor.
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