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 Post subject: Alfa chineza???
PostPosted: 18 Apr 2007, 00:34 
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stiu ca a mai fost postat ceva asemanator insa n-am reusit sa mai gasesc topicul respectiv, cred ca e unul din cele disparute...daca n-am fost eu atent rog mutarea postului de fata :oops:
gasit azi pe un alt forum alfa si ramas perplex :shock:
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Alfa Romeo by Chery

Chery says Nanjing Fiat aint worth it

Published April 15th, 2007 in Chinese Car News, Chery Automobile and Nanjing Automobile Corporation.

Now that Chery and Nanjing Fiat have admitted to holding talks with each other (it was a bit of a secret relationship for a while) Chery seem to have come out and said they are willing to spend a maximum of 15 billion RMB for upto 50% of the Fiat-Nanjing autos joint venture agreement, however, Chery has said ‘It aint worth no 15 billion RMB, fool’ or Chinese words to that effect.

Chinese press are also saying that there is a chance that the agreement will go through - Chery will help Nanjing Fiat with production, but also - produce Alfa Romeo vehicles here in China. Alfa Romeos were always imported into China, and usually with a large price tag which probably doesn’t help their sales at all in China. China Car Times estimates Alfa Sales to be floating around the low hundreds per year. The plan being shown by the Chinese press is to make Alfa’s in China, and export them back to Europe.

As usual, China Car Times will keep you updated on the Chery Nanjing dealings.
sper ca va ramane la stadiul de gluma, altfel cand prima alfa va iesi pe poarta fabricii din china eu voi fi un mandru posesor de golf :puke2:
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Informatii despre subiect mai puteti gasi aici.

Parafrazand,mi-e frica despre secolul urmator ca fie va fi unul chinez,fie nu va mai fi deloc ! :yikes:

Oricum,si lor le place Alfa,au inceput deja sa-i copieze designul cu nesimtire.


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Oameni mai nesimtiti si mai lipsiti de imaginatie ca si chinezii nu cred ca mai exista :evil:
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"Marchionne: puntiamo produrre Alfa in Cina In vista accordo con la Chery. I colloqui per produrre le Alfa Romeo in Cina stanno andando avanti. L'idea e buona;

ROMA - La Fiat sta pensando di far produrre le Alfa Romeo in Cina.;L'alleanza con la Chery e iniziata dai motori ma potenzialmente puntiamo a sviluppare con loro una partnership per il marchio Alfa. Certamente e impossibile che altri marchi del gruppo possano essere sviluppati nella struttura della Nanjing». Lo ha affermato l'amministratore di Fiat Sergio Marchionne durante la tavola rotonda riservata ai giurati che ha preceduto l'assegnazione del Premio InterAutoNews Top manager mondo 2006. "

Sergio Marchionne este administrator delegat al grupului Fiat. Cu alte cuvinte, la ceremonia de decernare a premiilor InterAutoNews Top manager mondo 2006 , Marchionne a spus ca Fiat intentioneaza sa produca Alfa in China printr-o alianta cu Chery !!!! Alianza cu Chery are in vedere deocamdata producerea de motoare, dar se are in vedere un parthership pt AR.
E greu sa comentezi ce va aduce bun aceasta strategie, in afara de costuri reduse de productie. Adevarul e ca AR are probleme mari cu unitati de productie in Italia insasi, vezi ce se intampla la Pomigliano in acest moment. Eu personal am anumite resentimente (incerc sa fiu elegant) vis-a-vis de calitatea muncii prestate in locul respectiv :evil:

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Complicat subiectul.
Daca stai sa te gandesti toti marii constructori au fabrici in afara tarilor lor de origine. Piata chineza se anunta a fi cea mai mare din lume in curand. Nimeni nu-si va permite sa nu incerce "o felie din tort". Pana la urma, daca le vor face local si le vor vinde tot local este bine pentru bussines. Si eu am indoieli in privinta calitatii mainii de lucru chinezesti, dar uitati ca in ziua de astazi subansamblele din calculatoarele la care scriem sunt facute in China...

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este in proiect , nica de zis...
dar pana la iesirea unei Alfe din stabilimente chineze , se vrea mai mult!
deocamdat' sa vedem iesirea pe piata americana.

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Detalii despre producerea de modele Alfa Romeo in China incep sa fie din ce in ce mai vehiculate.Ultimele declaratii confirma oficial ca berlina 159 va fi construita incepand cu anul 2009 in fabrica detinuta in comun cu Chery Auto in localitatea Wuhu de langa Shanghai.
La aceasta ora nu sunt cunoscute alte detalii,dar se preconizeaza o productie cuprinsa intre 30 si 35 de mii de automobile anual.
Principalele piedici in calea demararii imediate a productie sunt bineinteles rezolvarea problemelor locale in privinta calitatii fabricatiei,dar si gasirea de furnizori locali capabili sa produca subansamble la un nivel acceptabil pentru Alfa Romeo.

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Ne-am dat dracu', scuzata sa-mi fie expresia. Globalizarea asta chiar da nastere la monstri. Alfa Romeo chinezesti! Ce ne mai asteapta? Cred ca Alfele chinezesti sint pentru SUA.
In alta ordine de idei, astia de la Fiat chiar sint dusi. Cred ca vor sa duca in ridicol numele de Alfa Romeo. In lumea asta moderna totusi mai conteaza unele lucruri, globalizarea n-a uniformizat chiar totul, dovada sta in faptul ca VW nu a avut succes cu Phaeton, nu au fost foarte multi sa inghita o masina de lux facuta de VW. Asa si cu Alfa, ar trebui sa se insiste foarte mult pe caracteristicile care au facut-o celebra: exotism, frumusete si sportivitate. Astia se gindesc sa produca Alfa in China, dar ce anume sa produca? 147, 156 Crosswagon, GT, 159 si Brera nu sint de ajuns sa tina piata. Unele modele sint la capatul carierei si fiecare model in parte are concurenti directi, modele noi si cel putin la fel de performante. Unde sint tractiunea spate (celebra transaxle care traieste cu succes la Ferrari) si integrala de la Alfa, unde sint motoarele supraalimentate pe benzina, care faceau furori? Sper sa nu se ajunga ca sintagma "Cuore sportive" sa fie doar o forma fara fond.
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Trist. :evil:

Chiar totul este de vanzare ?

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sper sa fie un basm :))))!

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A mai existat un topic asemanator,dar a disparut.

Alfa in China

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Ce ai vurut sa spui ca au inceput sa apara mai multe Alfa in China sau au inceput sa apara copii ca si la Ferrari? :shock:

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Un nou acord.

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trist.....Unul din lucrurile ce ma atragea la Alfa era "sangele" italian care ii curgea prin vene....Pacat ca acum e resuscitata cu sange chinezesc....Trist,again!

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S-ar putea totusi ca acest acord ca faca referire doar la masini Fiat.
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Per il momento, gli accordi tra Torino e Canton non prevedono la costruzione in Cina dell'Alfa Romeo

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Alfa 166 reloaded
SUV pe platforma lui 166

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Mondeopassatocorolla aia e pe platforma de 66? :lol:

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Trist si frustrant.

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Mondeopassatocorolla aia e pe platforma de 66? :lol:
Stilul nu are nimic de-a face cu dedesubturile. Chiar as fi curios cum se simte la drum clona asta, daca au facut ceva modificari sasiului/suspensiei.
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Trist si frustrant.
Amuzant de frustrant. S-ar putea sa vedem asadar primul mult trambitat "SUV Alfa" de la un constructor chinez. Si ca sa fie distractia completa, ar trebui sa semene - intamplator bineinteles - cu studiul Kamal.

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"Masina" aia sta la poze, dar jantele sunt prelucrate sa arate ca si cum ar fi in plina viteza, fara sofer :roll2: China al the wey!
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Alfa debuteaza oficial pe piata chineza, a fost prezenta prin cele doua modele produse si singurul concept avut la dispozitie la salonul chinezesc Guangzhou Auto Show. Mai departe, s-a declarat ca in 2 ani ar incepe si productia de Alfe intr-o fabrica apartinand Guangzhou Auto... pacat insa ca primele reactii nu sunt pozitive.
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Ii tot acuzam pe chinezi ca n-ar fi originali, dar sincer sa fiu, nimeni n-a mai comparat pana acum Mito unui iepuras horror. :(

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Alfa debuteaza oficial pe piata chineza, a fost prezenta prin cele doua modele produse si singurul concept avut la dispozitie la salonul chinezesc Guangzhou Auto Show. Mai departe, s-a declarat ca in 2 ani ar incepe si productia de Alfe intr-o fabrica apartinand Guangzhou Auto... pacat insa ca primele reactii nu sunt pozitive.
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Ii tot acuzam pe chinezi ca n-ar fi originali, dar sincer sa fiu, nimeni n-a mai comparat pana acum Mito unui iepuras horror. :(
intr-adevar, originala comparatia lor. :censored:
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The MiTo then. Not a chance. The only brands that can ask a premium for a small imported car are Mini, Volkswagen (Beetle) and Audi (A1). Volkswagen and Audi are strong and long established names in China and Mini is distributed through BMW’s dealer-network.
In caul lui MiTo, trebuie sa recunosc ca sunt uimit de asa zisa concurenta, de ce oare considera ei The Beetle competitor pentru MiTo cand el, teoretic, este competitorul Giuliettei? cine stie!? poate specificatiile pietei chineze "ii imping" catre aceasta alaturare?! :scratch:
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The Giulietta. Slightly bigger chance because it is a beautiful car. But it is even less premium than the MiTo...
Imi pare rau sa vad reactiile negative la adresa Giuliettei. :(

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Beetle, concurent pentru Giulietta? Pai si Golful ce mai e? :roll:

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Beetle, concurent pentru Giulietta? Pai si Golful ce mai e? :roll:
o masina... :lol:

PS. nu inteleg intrebarea, zau!

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