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nici mie nu imi place galben, nu pe argintiu.. ti-am pus poza doar sa vezi si tu..
rosu nu e rau ce-i drept, go for it :wink:

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la buburuza, se vad bine de tot etrierii, jantele sunt in cinci spite, aici treaba e usoara, daaaaar nu stiu cum o sa fac etrierii la aia rosie care e pe vine .... aaaa .... :headscratch:

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hopaaaaa :D lasa ca etrierii sunt ultima problema, sa o vedem si noi la fata si at ne dam cu parerea ce culoare s-ar potrivi la etrieri :lol: succes :wink:

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EGEzutz, hai sa nu eclipsam topicul lu` diliu ca se supara .... :rant:
Mai pe la inceputul lu` iulie o sa deschid un topic cu ... "rosso brunello" :wink: .... diliu stieeee .... :lol:

L.E. : buba, pe spate are tamburi ..... :?

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EGE, lu dili miau repede i-ai facut mah etrierii colorati pe computador, io cand iti ziceam - pauza. :shock: :evil:
Rosu e misto mah Dili.
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unde i-am facut etrierii pe calculator? :roll:

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Lipsesc si eu 2 zile si va faceti de cap vad. :disgust1:
Felicitari pentru jante frumoase foc. :up:
Etrieri dupa ce ii vopsesti musai 2 straturi de lac(spray e chiar bun ca sa nu iei o cutie)pentru ca acolo se murdareste vopseaua una doua de la placutele de frana si ferodouri,si cand le speli daca sunt lacuite se duce mult mai bine jegul ala si raman ca noi altfel pe vopsea fara lac incep usor usor sa se innegreasca si in juma de an se fac un fel de negru-rosiatic etrierii.Spor la treaba.

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La mine nu s-a cojit lacul si imi pare rau ca nu am dat mai multe straturi de lac.Acuma poate se cojeste dar numa daca mergi regulat pe circuitul de la Arad :lol: :lol: ,ca in conditii de folosire normala a franelor nu se decojeste lacul.

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Dar parca nu erai adeptul remaparii din ce am discutat la Oradea?

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Curba de cuplu se modifica din axa cu came, mai greu din remap.
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La o masina cu turbo se modifica si din variatia presiunii de supraaalimentare. Cuplul motor depinde direct de cantitatea de aer introdus, iar asta se variaza usor din wastegatele controlat de ECU.

Powerbox nu e niciodata o idee buna, avind in vedere ca "minte" ECU. Parerea mea.
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Curba de cuplu se modifica din axa cu came, mai greu din remap.
Ce spui tu straine?! :roll:
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La motorul supra-alimentat exista harti de cuplu care exact asta fac :wink:

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Alexandrus Quote:
Curba de cuplu se modifica din axa cu came, mai greu din remap.

Gresit foarte gresit........iti spun eu sigur ca se poate din amandoua, mai ales cand se fac amandoua complementar.Trebuie soft ca sa fie pusa in evidenta schimbarea...si e valabil si la benzina.

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E valabil la orice turbo dar din pacate e tot o minciuna catre ECU pentru ca mecanic cuplul e determinat in special de axa cu came.
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Cu toate ca a durat ceva pina sa descifrez ce ai scris acolo mic, nu, nu vreau sa contrazic pe nimeni, mult succes cu remaparea, sper sa fii ferit de problemele comune ale remaparii facute fara dyno si alte cele trebuincioase.
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madkat Quote:
(tupacu zice ca mi-e frica :roll: )
Chiken!!!! :harhar:
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mi-a recomandat cam ce voiam si eu - o remapare "moderata"
Pai moderata am si eu, nu stiu ce te tot dai fata mare atata :D. Aia face remapul in primul rand: iti optimizeaza cuplul! Oricum, mie imi convine ca nu iti faci mai agresiv, ca sa te mananc pe paine in continuare! :D :D :harhar:
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ete pisica dilie vrea ...o remapare..115 cp nu-i mai usnt suficienti :)))!

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hehehe..asa e!

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Curba de cuplu nu e ce ziceti voi pe aici... Exista o harta de limitare a cuplului. Calculul cuplului se face pe baza unor senzori montati pe axul cu came, volanta, etc. Aproximarea este relativa, dar curba originala de limitare este foarte scazuta in partea de inceput (ture mici - pana la 1500 la diesel) ca sa nu rupa ambreiajul, dupa care incepe sa creasca, si apoi scade vertiginos de la 4000 ture. Inacceptabil, avand in vedere ca intra pe rosu la 5000. Curba mai arata si ca un fierestrau, motiv pentru care trage in trepte... Cel mai important aspect la remapare este refacerea curbei de cuplu, o faceti smooth si o mai ridicati cu 30% asa finut de primavara... :)

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La ture mici nu e vorba de limitare ci de faptul ca nu intra turbina, de acolo limitarea de cuplu ;)
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iar "ridicarea de primavara" nu o vreau mare deloc - de la 275Nm acum - maximum 300Nm
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La ture mici nu e vorba de limitare ci de faptul ca nu intra turbina, de acolo limitarea de cuplu ;)
Eu vorbesc de curba de limitare. Nu are legatura directa cu ce poate masina. Pur si simplu este limitat, chiar daca ai 400 chiar daca ai 200, el iti limiteaza la 100. :) E doar un exemplu, desigur...

Later Edit: In sectiunea respectiva curba de limitare este perfect orizontala, prin urmare cuplul este constant, ceea ce ma face sa cred ca intr-adevar in sectiunea respectiva cuplul este limitat electronic..

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Da, dar la 1500 RP, pina sa iti intre turbina, ai cuplu pauza, nici nu e nevoie de limitare ca e limitat el de la natura.
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Nice, very nice.
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