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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 23:19 
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Se lucreaza , se lucreaza.
O Giulietta plina de cabluri si camuflaje, usor mai lata si cu jante de 159, a fost surprinsa astazi in Torino.
O fi Giulia ? O fi baza pentru Giulietta SW/SUV ? O fi Dodge Fart ? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
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cred ca este giulietta conceputa pt piata americana , mai mult legroom si assroom.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2011, 17:59 
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Viitorul Alfa Romeo 4C va cantari 900 kg, fara caroserie din fibra de carbon

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 16:23 
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La Detroit, Marchionne a declarat ca este nevoie de un alt parteneriat pentru a trece cu bine de turbulentele economice si a face fata in Europa concurentei VW.
Articol in italiana

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 16:32 
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Daca inteleg eu bine, e vorba de un parteneriat largit, nu de un alt parteneriat. Plus Peugeot-Citroen!
Oricum, sunt cu gura cascata... :o

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 16:43 
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Mda...Marchionne e un bun strateg si cred ca un si mai bun politician. Vom vedea cat din ''cuvantarea'' lui de la Detroit a fost business si cat politica:D

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:07 
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Trebuie sa recunosc, si pe mine m-a luat prin surprindere. Uite si o posibila explicatie pentru acest parteneriat:
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Car sales in Europe are expected to fall 4 percent to 13 million vehicles in 2012 from 2011’s estimated 13.5 million, according to a forecast from PricewaterhouseCoopers. [...]

“Peugeot and Fiat are probably most at risk. They’re just too exposed to European markets, they don’t have the strongest product momentum, and their balance sheets are already stretched,” Arndt Ellinghorst, an analyst with Credit Suisse, was quoted as saying by Bloomberg.
Anul 2012 nu se anunta prea fericit, mai toti din industria auto au previziuni sumbre. E drept ca Fiat e una din marcile cu cele mai putine modele in portofoliu, de aici si riscul un pic mai maricel. In fine, pana la urma toti vor fi "loviti", unii mai tare, altii mai incet. :|

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:09 
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Totusi, faptul ca masini pe baza Dart-ului sub sigla Fiat vor fi construite in China si importate in Europa nu prea cred sa ii aduca procente de popularitate. Asta la scurt dupa inchiderea fabricii Termini Imerese.

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E la Giulia?
"È ancora viva, in condizione embrionale per lo stile. Dovrebbe partire, speriamo di farcela per il 2013".

La Dart arriverà anche in Europa?
"Se verrà, non arriverà da qui".

Vuol dire che verrà importata dalla Cina in Italia?
"È così".

Per sostituire la Bravo?
"In realtà è parecchio più grande della Bravo, più vicina al segmento D che al C".
Ce s-a mai declarat astazi este ca Fiat va introduce in 2013 2 masini noi pe platforma C, latita si lungita cum a ajuns ea acum. Prima dintre ele este o berlina care va debuta in vara aceasta, va avea foarte mult in comun cu modelul american si va fi construita de partenerul chinez Guangzhou Automobile, urmand a fi vazuta pentru prima oara in aceasta primavara la Salonul Auto Beijing. A doua este de tip hatchback, posibil cu alura de SUV in genul Nissan Qashqai. Acesta din urma va fi probabil construit si la Cassino si este prevazut a inlocui Fiat Bravo. Destul pentru a aprinde imaginatia celor cu centura neagra in photoshop.


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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:42 
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Cam neglijenti astia cu centura neagra in photoshop, de lasa alte jante sa se reflecte in apa :)

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:49 
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You can do it better ! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2012, 16:11 
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Planul industrial al FIAT pentru 2012 :
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Asadar nici o noutate Alfa pentru anul acesta, dupa unele raporte aparute in presa auto, vor mai trece cel putin 18 luni pana sa vedem un nou model Alfa.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2012, 13:26 
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nu imi vine sa cred . stiam ca daca au zis o data nu se mai modifica :lol:

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/alfa- ... 42649.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was there really an Alfa Romeo sportscar called the 4C or did we imagine it? That’s the sort of though we’re having and we suspect many of our readers are doing the same.

Alfa Romeo’s return to the US has already been pushed back to next year, and it might not even bring the 4C with it. You see, our spy photographers captured the Giulietta near Detroit recently, and we expect it will be produced there together with the Giulia sedan. So where does that place the two-seater?

According to AutoCar, the production version of the car will only arrive at the 2014 Detroit Motor Show. The British publication even states that the whole Alfa Romeo arrival is to be delayed until the Michigan venue taking place roughly two years from now.

This negates one of their previous reports that stated the 4C sports car is set to be brought to the world as a prototype during the middle of 2012 and enter the market in its final form in 2013.

The good news is that Alfa isn’t being left for dead, as the company will expand its lineup to also include the five-door Mito, a new Spider, a new sedan and wagon to replace the 159, a crossover and a new flagship sedan called the 6C.

We’re not sure if Alfa Will indeed be delayed that much, but the best way to tell is to wait for the appointment of a US operations chief.


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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
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De la Paris 2012 la Detroit 2014 cam mare distanta :roll:

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The crowd aloud: VW, VW, VW!!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2012, 16:37 
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De la Paris 2012 la Detroit 2014 cam mare distanta :roll:
Am avut rezervele mele vis-a-vis de articolul publicat in autocar.co.uk acum cateva zile, asta este si motivul pentru care nu am impartasit linkul. Articolul respectiv mi s-a parut un mix de stiri mai vechi, plus ca au cam si incurcat borcanele, prezentand 6C ca fiind o berlina de clasa mare.
Eu cred(sper) in sursele care spun asa :

- 4C: prezentarea masinii de serie in Septembrie 2012 la Paris, apoi in Ianuarie 2013 la Detroit.
-Mito FL/5P: prima jumatate a anului 2013, la Mirafiori.
-SUV: debut in prima jumatate a anului 2013, productie la Toledo.
-Giulia (berlina si sportwagon) va fi produsa Sterling Heights Michigan impreuna cu Chrysler 200/Lancia Flavia de la sfarsitul lui 2013.
- masina amiral (probabil pe platforma Maserati-ului segment E) , noul Spider, si probabil mai tarziu, pe platforma viitorului Challenger , un GT numit 6C.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
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mugurel Quote:
nu imi vine sa cred . stiam ca daca au zis o data nu se mai modifica :lol:

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/alfa- ... 42649.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was there really an Alfa Romeo sportscar called the 4C or did we imagine it? That’s the sort of though we’re having and we suspect many of our readers are doing the same.

Alfa Romeo’s return to the US has already been pushed back to next year, and it might not even bring the 4C with it. You see, our spy photographers captured the Giulietta near Detroit recently, and we expect it will be produced there together with the Giulia sedan. So where does that place the two-seater?

According to AutoCar, the production version of the car will only arrive at the 2014 Detroit Motor Show. The British publication even states that the whole Alfa Romeo arrival is to be delayed until the Michigan venue taking place roughly two years from now.

This negates one of their previous reports that stated the 4C sports car is set to be brought to the world as a prototype during the middle of 2012 and enter the market in its final form in 2013.

The good news is that Alfa isn’t being left for dead, as the company will expand its lineup to also include the five-door Mito, a new Spider, a new sedan and wagon to replace the 159, a crossover and a new flagship sedan called the 6C.

We’re not sure if Alfa Will indeed be delayed that much, but the best way to tell is to wait for the appointment of a US operations chief.
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Got an email from someone within FIAT and they rubbished the report saying its only available in 2014 and stated production will start in next year and it will be in both RHD and LHD
Sa speram ca "omul din interior" stie cat de cat si nu vorbeste de dragu de a vorbi:)


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FGA are at full tilt at the moment and stretched to the limits, on the decks they currently have big and baby quattroporte, Panda launch for RHD, Ducato USA, Ducato Euro,Doblo USA,LL0 and LL0 grande(MPV 's with 500 styling)motoring press generally have no idea. Forgot Maserati SUV based on old ML.
Asta e mai credibila sursa ......deocamdata Alfa nu prea apare prin discutii :(

Ce e mai trist e Maserati SUV bazat pe platforma de Jeep care e derivata din platforma veche de ML.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2012, 16:28 
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E haioasa situatia, daca te indepartezi un pic.
Ce stim noi, fanii Alfa, si nu vrem sa spunem explicit, este ca, daca alta marca ar fi fost in situatia in care e acum Alfa Romeo, am fi facut un misto crunt de ea si nu am fi avut nici cel mai mic respect... In definitiv, o istorie glorioasa nu te salveaza de la un prezent penibil... :uhuh:

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lucianm Quote:
E haioasa situatia, daca te indepartezi un pic.
Ce stim noi, fanii Alfa, si nu vrem sa spunem explicit, este ca, daca alta marca ar fi fost in situatia in care e acum Alfa Romeo, am fi facut un misto crunt de ea si nu am fi avut nici cel mai mic respect... In definitiv, o istorie glorioasa nu te salveaza de la un prezent penibil... :uhuh:
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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 02 May 2012, 14:52 
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Comunicat pe alfaromeo.it

-4C produs de anul viitor, primul model cu care marca se va reintoarce in State.
-pana in 2014, 6 (!) modele noi, printre care Giulia si SUV.
-obiectiv : 400.000 de exemplare vandute incepand cu 2014. :blink:

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PostPosted: 02 May 2012, 14:57 
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E bine ca de abia din martie 2013 vor incepe sa produca 4C, pentru ca mai am timp sa strang bani :lol:

Hai ca s-au pus pe treaba! Doamne ajuta sa fie asa cum zice in comunicat.

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Hai ca s-au pus pe treaba!
:haha: Zau?? :headscratch:
Ieri am venit din Italia. Au baietii aia un chef de munca (orice ar face...), incat incep sa-l inteleg pe Marchionne.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
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Ferrari investeste 50 milioane eur in dezvoltarea a doua noi motoare, un V6 si un V8. Cele doua unitati, in diferite configuratii vor echipa modele Ferrari, Maserati si Alfa Romeo. Se pare ca viitoare berlina mare de la Alfa va avea un V6 Biturbo produs de Ferrari. De asemenea este precizat faptul ca noul motor de 1750 cc / 300 CP intra in productie de anul viitor.

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2012, 17:21 
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Alfa Romeo
•MiTo replacement (2013) ◦New four-door hatchback replaces two-door model, based on bigger B-wide platform

•4C Coupe (2013) and 4C Spyder (2014) ◦Removable roof panel
◦Mid-engine

•Small crossover (2014) ◦U.S.-built crossover, related to Fiat crossover and new Jeep Patriot
◦I-4 only

•Giulietta (2014) ◦Second-generation of Alfa’s compact hatchback

•Giulia and Giulia Sportwagon (2014) ◦Based on C/D architecture, has potential for coupe spin-off

•Spider (TBD) ◦Derived from RWD components set provided by Mazda


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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2012, 15:30 
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Surprinzatoare decizia de a inlocui Mito atat de repede si fara lupta, si inca cu o alta varianta de caroserie. Eu inteleg ca se cer versiunile in 5 usi ( chiar si Ypsilon a renuntat la 3 usi) dar totusi... sa-l lasi apoi pe Mini sa-si faca singur de cap ? Generatia viitoare a acestuia va avea si ea o varianta in 5 usi, dar asta nu inseamna ca va renunta la varianta clasica in 3 portiere. Eu cred ca decizia are la baza tot dorinta de a se intoarce cat mai repede in State, si faptul ca sperantele pentru vanzarile viitoare sunt legate de acea piata, si nu cea europeana, de unde si utilizarea platformei mai mare, B-Wide.
Si Giulietta va fi pensionata devreme, dar macar pentru generatia viitoare ( ca si pentru Mito pana la proba contrarie) sper ca va da liber unei game mai variate : in momentul de fata Giulieta se vinde mai bine decat Golful in Italia, fiind pe locul 7 in topul general al vanzarilor. Unde ar fi fost cu ceva mai mult decat o singura varianta de caroserie ?!
Mi se pare de bun simt ca 4C si aibe si o varianta Spider, cu atat mai mult cu cat pare chiar simplu de facut, cu acoperis de tip Targa. Ar fi fost pacat ca varianta cabrio sa se vand sub numele Abarth, cum se vehiculase mai demult.
Cat despre Giulia, eu sper ca blufeaza. Este imposibil ca nici acum sa nu stie pe ce arhitectura va fi construita masina. :blink:

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 Post subject: Re: Planurile Alfa Romeo
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2012, 16:54 
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Inlocuirea lui Mito, varianta in 3 usi mi se pare o decizie normala, avand in vedere ca exista Fiat 500 Abarth care se vinde bine, mai ales in America si care cred ca se poate bate de la egal la egal cu Mini.
Cu restul noutatilor, trebuie sa vedem cum vor evolua lucrurile dupa ce se va lansa 4C. Sperantele de mai bine pentru Alfa Romeo, cred ca vor incepe din momentul vanzarii 4C-ului.
Cat despre noi, restul muritorilor, care asteptam o Giulia sau ceva asemenator, cred ca va trebui sa (mai) avem rabdare :uhuh:

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