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Alfa Romeo 1750
PostPosted: 29 Mar 2010, 09:49 
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Senzorul axei cu came, este pozitionat sub fulia axei cu came de la evacuare.

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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2010, 13:16 
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Senzorul axei cu came, este pozitionat sub fulia axei cu came de la evacuare.
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nsoimaru
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 08:07 
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Am schimbat bateria, sonda lamda si bujiile. Tot nu am rezolvat problema. Eroarea reapare dupa circa 10 -15 km parcursi. Erorile citite sunt; P0141 si P0136. Cel care a facut testul mi-a zis sa ies pe autostrada si sa merg in viteza a patra la peste 4000 de ture pana se stinge martorul din bord. Of topic, as dori sa fac o resoftare, daca stie cineva la cine as ramane recunoscator.

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Care dintre sondele lambda ai schimbat-o?

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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 09:24 
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Sonda nr 2 de la catalizator.

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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 09:30 
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Pe tester cum apare eroarea? Intermitent sau permanent?
Ce tip de motor ai: AR 32103 sau AR 32104?

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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 09:41 
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Nu stiu ce tip de motor am. Pe tester apare permanent. Se poate sterge dar, cum am spus, reapare in scurt timp.

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P0141 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
P0136 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 10:22 
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Se rezolva daca merg turat pe autostrada cum a spus cel care a facut diagnoza?

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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 12:34 
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E simpla treaba, nu ai schimbat senzorul potrivit.
Nu se rezolva nimic daca mergi la peste 4000 rpm pe autostrada.
Pentru remap ai pm.

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PostPosted: 02 Apr 2010, 14:05 
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Vreau si eu un contact pentru o diagnoza ca lumea adica sa-mi spuna si mie cineva ce trebuie sa schimb si cat ma costa. Multumesc pentru PM

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PostPosted: 12 Apr 2010, 07:12 
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Stie cineva unde este localizat senzorul lamda2 la motorul 1.6ts?

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PostPosted: 12 Apr 2010, 22:24 
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Eu am schimbat sonda lamda 2.Este sonda din partea dreapta cum te uiti la motor, pozitionata imediat dupa galeria de evacuare.
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2010, 07:44 
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Aceiasi sonda am schimbat-o si eu dar din pacate tot reapare in bord MCSF cu doua coduri de eroare:
P0141 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
P0136 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
Dupa ce le sterg reapar in aproximativ 10-15Km parcursi.

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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2010, 22:04 
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Ai pus cumva universala Bosh?

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PostPosted: 14 Apr 2010, 07:01 
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Nu stiu. Trebuie sa inteb mecanicul. Cei de la service au facut comanda si tot ei au montat-o. Daca e asa cum spui, universala, trebuie schimbata?

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PostPosted: 15 Apr 2010, 04:22 
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Eu cand am schimbat-o pe a mea mecanicul meu a insistat foarte mult sa pun bosh originala, pt.ca alea universale nu prea dau randament.
Spune-mi cat ai dat pe sonda si iti spun eu daca ii originala sau universala sau si mai simplu vezi daca seamana cu cea din stanga ar trebui sa fie surori gemene.

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In jur de 400 ron, ce ma frapat a fost faptul ca nu a venit cu mufa originala si mi-au innadit firele. Pe langa asta mi-au rupt si siguranta de plastic care tine mufele impreuna.

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Tind sa cred ca ii universala, avand in vedere pretul si faptul ca a trebuit modificata pentru a fi motantata. Pentru sigurantele alea rupte iarta-i nu e vina lor, sunt subtiri din plastic si probabil coapte de la caldura generata de motor.

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Multumesc pentru sfaturi. Pana acum nu ma deranja, dar de ieri, a inceput sa tremure rau la relanti, scoate fum negru pe esapament, si consuma peste 18l la suta. deci trebuie sa rezolv problema urgent.

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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 10:31 
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tomi_alfa Quote:
P1172, P1175, P1177 si P1178
Iarasi revin cu vechea problema. Am fost din nou la reprezentanta si acuma mi-au spus, dupa parerea mea, alte tampenii. Ca erorile astea apar din cauza benzinei, ca se formeaza condens in containerele benzinariilor si ca eu alimentez benzina cu apa. Solutia? "alimenteaza dintr-o benzinarie noua" :disgust: . Alta e ca ar fi din cauza bujiilor, apoi imi zice ca poate e din cauza pompei de benzina care are filtrul stricat, pompa fiind cu filtru incorporat (pret 1500 lei pompa :shock: ). Problema cu turatia (cand o turez pana la 2 mii si apoi iau piciorul de pe acceleratie, revine inapoi la relani cu niste intreruperi) cica ar fi de la "centralina"(calculatorul masinii? :? ), care nu stiu cum arata, ce inseamna si unde se regaseste (pret 3000 lei :shock: ).
In concluzie, eu nu stiu care piesa sa o schimb, pentru ca nici astia de la reprezentanta :bash: nu-s in stare cu toate calculatoarele lor sa-mi spuna care este, iar sa ma apuc eu sa schimb sonde lambda si MAF-uri si sa nu se rezolve problema, nu pot. :censored:

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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2010, 12:36 
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Am cumparat cablul K-line/VAGCOM si cu FiatECUScan (free version) am sters codurile de eroare, dupa care am resetat ECU. Pana acum am facut 800km si nu a mai aparut nici o eroare. Se para ca dupa ce se schimba un actuator sau o sonda, este necesara o resetare a parametrilor. De asemenea atat relanti-ul cat si consumul au revenit la normal. Ideea este ca pasii trebuiesc respectati, adica, stergere coduri reset ECU.

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Dupa 1600 KM eroarea a revenit. Se pare ca sonda lambda dupa catalizator nu se alimenteaza. Revin cu codurile de eroare exacte.

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Nu se alimenteaza deloc. Vreau sa verific si tensiunile si sigurantele. Ciudat este ca eroarea a aparut dupa o pornire cu motorul cald, nu in mers.

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