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PostPosted: 20 Oct 2006, 11:12 
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Sincer pentru toata povestea asta am un raspuns. Motoarele Alfa din noua generatie rezultate in urma colaborarii cu GM nu trebuiau sa existe. Au cautat o platforma economica si asta a iesit. Performantele sunt pe hartie mai bune decat generatia TS sau vechiul V6 insa in realitate cine conduce o alfa din anii 90-2004 poate face clar diferenta. Motoarele actuale raspund mai lent si sunt mult mai sugrumate decat cele vechi. Asta si datorita multitudinii de sisteme de siguranta gen control al tractiunii si a sistemelor Euro 4. Pe langa toate astea Alfele de astazi s-au cam ingrasat. Sunt frumoase dar au devint cam grele, asa ca nu e de mirare ca o Brera 2.2 JTS are acceleratie 0-100 mai slaba decat 33-ul meu de 1.7 16V. Poate cu acel clio, alfa va concura cu viitoarea Junior care poate va fi sub 1300kg si va avea performante.

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am punctat si acolo.... ceva mai dur :D

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Sa stii ca Clio-ul sport e destul de 'rau'.

Nu sta excelent la imagine sau confort, dar pe partea de tehnica si fiabilitate sunt buni.

Mai gandeste-te si la faptul ca au experienta destul de mare in competitii (anul asta e se bat la titlul din F1), lucru care se vede sub capota lui Clio sport.

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Asa da. 8)


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Asa da. 8)
masian asta m-a lasat cu gura cascata...
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Abia mi-am vandut un renault si mi-am luat o alfa 159 cu 2.2 JTS si tot ce sper este ca service-ul sa fie la fel de bun ca la Renault unde iti dadeau masina la schimb, programare imediata ...
Insa in ceea ce priveste noul clio sport pe care l-am testat inainte de a-mi lua alfa pot spune ca este o masina cu adevarat distractiva ce poate fi turbata... finisajele insa sunt mult sub laguna sau noul megane. Ca motoristi pe benzină Renault sunt foarte, foarte tari

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tot ce sper este ca service-ul sa fie la fel de bun ca la Renault
Pregateste-te pentru ce e mai rau.

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despre benzinarele actuale reno vs. benzinarele actuale alfa nu mai spun nimic ca ma baneaza :lol:
Pai ce sa spui, ca nu e mult de spus decat:
- 2.0 ASPIRAT 197CP
- 2.0 TURBO 230CP
Gata, atat :D
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Alea sint doar 2 exemple de motoare produse in serie limitata. Daca vorbim de motoare "mainstream" pe benzina, AR nu prea are ce discuta cu Reno. Pacat, tot ce testeaza in curse se pare ca ramine undeva ascuns in sertar.
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2.0 de 197 de cai de pe clio nu e serie limitata.E echiparea RS.

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IR cam are dreptate. In afara de 2.0 ala de 198CP in ultima varianta(nu e editie limitata, dar nu vad multi clienti Renault care vor sari sa cumpere un Clio F1 R27), si 2.0T de 230CP, restul sunt mediocre cel mult. Pe de alta parte, Alfa are 1.4 TB de 155CP, vine 1.75 TB ala de ... cit o fi el pe GTA, si tot asa. Din pacate odata ce se ajunge la punctul limita de 2.0l, si mai ales la motoare aspirate, nici Alfa(rusine maxima) nici Renault(rusine lor) nu au nimic demn de luat in seama.
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Noul Megane RS Turbo 2 litri 250 CP :


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Frumos!
Nu-mi vine sa cred ca am spus asta despre Renault. :lol:
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sa nu va suparati pe mine daca cumva parasesc corabia pentru asa ceva :roll:

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Ca sa nu mai zicem ca e scutit si de taxa de poluare :lol:

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Mie unul mi se pare chiar uritica masina, un Megane beefed up, dar probabil e destul de capabila.
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chiar uratica nu e, dar stii cum e cu gusturile..

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Corect, insa uite-te putin, in afara de umflaturile de la aripi, deasupra rotilor, si mult nrgu in fata ca sa nu se vada ca de fapt nu e mai nimic interesant pe acolo, masina nu are o forma deosebita, e chiar banala.
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combinatie de mazda 3, focus si astra cu avantajul ca fuge si o sa fie ieftina.
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De fapt daca ma uit la clio al meu si la vel satis si alte reno'... e superba! :wink:
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Candva in viata asta voi avea asa ceva. :sig:


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Sper ca nu vorbesti serios! A fost un esec rasunator al celor de la Renault si a avut si de ce...

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Bine bubule, pai daca tu compari cu Velsatis...
Oricum, Clio R27 este mai frumos decit Megane RS ;)
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si lancia thesis a fost un insucces rasunator. asta nu este un argument sa nu ia masina. dar asta? c'mon... it's absolutely :thumbdown:
anyway, ce model e? era sa spun ca e vel satis.

cat despre pozele alea cu megane. adica ieri faceau koleos si azi ozn? nu e vreo frumusete dar e un ozn beefed-up cum zicea si alexandrus. sa vedem cum o stafidesc nitel inainte sa iasa pe piata ca asa e prea de tot.

PS: renault who? :bored:

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marius a postat o poza cu avantime(cred ca asa se scrie). o masina de exceptie, pacat ca lumea nu a fost pregatita pentru asa ceva. ulterior a aparut megan 2 si vel satis, ce au preluat tema, si lumea...a muscat de data asta. daca lansau acum avantime-ul,...ehe, erau pe val bine de tot. oricum, deosebita masina

P.S. totusi de ce a renuntat alfa la motoarele boxer?

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