Am creat topicul acesta ca sa discutam despre ce se mai intampla in cadrul acestei fuziuni, stiri, zvonuri, etc.

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La Veloce Vita: Olio Acqua Benzina & Veloce

It`s an Alfa Romeo thing, you wouldn`t understand.

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Esentialul, la cererea cititorilor :
Cost-cutting at Fiat's factories in Italy has led to cuts in cleaning services and the number of toilets available to workers, according to unions.


Nu trebuie subscriptie pe acest site. Eu nu am. Stirea am verificat-o oricum pe mai multe site-uri inainte sa o pun aici pentru ca nu credeam ca poate fi adevarata. As vrea insa si FCA sa vina cu un raspuns.

Eu sunt curios cate bude aveau inainte si cu cate au mai ramas...

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147 1.9 Mjet 16V
166 3.2 v6

Cand Sergiu a vrut sa creasca productivitatea a instalat aer conditionat in halele care nu aveau, lache asta face economie la hartie igienica si sapun. Asta e nivelul, atat s-a putut.

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Alfa Romeo GTV 2.0 V6 TB - Carla
“La Bellezza è lo splendore del Vero.”

Ce-a facut, ce n-a facut Sergiulica, da PSA a iesit mai bine din criza decat FCA.
Dar sa nu deviem de la subiect si sa revenim la budele alea. Cate erau inainte?...

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147 1.9 Mjet 16V
166 3.2 v6

Cred ca una...

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Ford Focus ST3 Ecoblue
Ex: Giulietta my2017 2.0 JTDM-2, 175 CP
Ex: Giulietta 2.0 JTDM-2, 170 CP
Ex: FURIA ALBA, AR 159 JTDM, 210 CP

Da, asa este, una. Stellantis s-a angajat ca nu va da afara niciun om. Deci, inchizand si ultima toaleta din fabrica, muncitorii au ales intre a isi da demisia sau sa vina cu scutece pe ei.

Cred ca la X numar de muncitori trebuie sa existe X bude.
Nu cred ca s-a facut ceva ilegal.

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Alfa Romeo 147 GTA

Vezi mai jos la mine. Unele articole sunt blocate in spatele unui pay-wall. Ai un nr. limitat de vizualizari/ luna.

O sa mut discutia de aici, ca nu are legatura totusi cu planurile AR. Si asa n-avem topic despre Stellantis.

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La Veloce Vita: Olio Acqua Benzina & Veloce

It`s an Alfa Romeo thing, you wouldn`t understand.

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Oarecum tot pe acelasi subiect, Tavares e pornit pe sindicatele FCA din Italia, se pare ca ei (planturile) au costuri de 4 ori mai mari decat cele din Franta si Spania. Nu inteleg totusi daca stirea cu toaletele e scoasa dintr-un alt context sau nu, dar da, e cam jenant daca despre asta se discuta.

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La Veloce Vita: Olio Acqua Benzina & Veloce

It`s an Alfa Romeo thing, you wouldn`t understand.

AYRTON SENNA SEMPRE

Cand au zis bude, s-au referit si la pisoare? Sau alea raman neafectate?

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147 1.9 Mjet 16V
166 3.2 v6

Cred ca au redenumit si "fundul curtii".

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Ford Focus ST3 Ecoblue
Ex: Giulietta my2017 2.0 JTDM-2, 175 CP
Ex: Giulietta 2.0 JTDM-2, 170 CP
Ex: FURIA ALBA, AR 159 JTDM, 210 CP

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3546 ... technology

Stellantis pregateste vehicule utilitare alimentate cu hidrogen. Rezervoarele pentru hidrogen vor inlocui bateria de 50 kWh. Nu vor fi propulsate insa doar de hidrogen, ci va exista si o baterie mica de 10.5 kWh ce va putea fi reincarcata la priza. Cele 2 surse de energie; combinate, vor duce la o autonomie de peste 400 km.
Lansare in productie: pana la final de 2021.

Doar ca o remarca: proiectul este dezvoltat de catre PSA. FCA nu cred ca a avut asa ceva in plan. Mai exista vreun dubiu, pentru cineva, legat de beneficiile pe care le are FCA prin alianta cu PSA?

Deci le trebuie si o retea de "benzinarii" pentru hidrogen.
Nu vreau sa par carcotas sau ca iau partea electrocasnicelor, dar prize sunt peste tot...

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Hydrogen charging stations are still scarce across Europe, but these new models have received direct funding from the German government for their development, and are backed by a multi-billion Euros investment in EU hydrogen charging infrastructure being rolled out by French and German governments ahead of the EU's target for carbon neutrality in 2050.

Currently there are 25 hydrogen refuelling points in France, and 90 in Germany, with more being added every month.

Am mutat discutia aici. Razvan29

Despre electrificare in cadrul Stellantis:

Customer Focused

Affordability is a priority at Stellantis, as the Company is targeting for the total cost of ownership of EVs to be equivalent to internal combustion engine vehicles by 2026.

Electrification is not a “one size fits all” plan at Stellantis. Each of the Company’s 14 iconic brands is committed to offering best-in-class fully electrified solutions and doing so in a way that enhances the DNA of each brand. Stellantis revealed the following statements expressing each of the brand’s electrification approach:

● Abarth – “Heating Up People, But Not the Planet”

● Alfa Romeo – “From 2024, Alfa Becomes Alfa e-Romeo”

● Chrysler – “Clean Technology for a New Generation of Families”

● Citroën – “Citroën Electric: Well-Being for All!”

● Dodge – “Tear Up the Streets… Not the Planet”

● DS Automobiles – “The Art of Travel, Magnified”

● Fiat – “It’s Only Green When It’s Green for All”

● Jeep® – “Zero Emission Freedom”

● Lancia – “The Most Elegant Way to Protect the Planet”

● Maserati – “The Best in Performance Luxury, Electrified”

● Opel/Vauxhall – “Green is the New Cool”

● Peugeot – “Turning Sustainable Mobility into Quality Time”

● Ram – “Built to Serve a Sustainable Planet”

● Commercial Vehicles – “The Global Leader in e-Commercial Vehicles”

Driving range and rapid recharges are key to widespread consumer acceptance of BEVs. Stellantis meets this challenge with BEVs that will deliver ranges between 500-800 km/300-500 miles and with class-leading fast charging capability of 32 km/20 miles per minute.


Smart Technology Enablers

Four BEV-centric platforms are the backbone of the electrified vehicles from Stellantis brands. The platforms are designed with a high level of flexibility (length and width) and component sharing, delivering economies of scale as each platform can support production of up to two million units per year.

The four platforms are:

● STLA Small, with a range up to 500 kilometers/300 miles

● STLA Medium, with a range up to 700 kilometers/440 miles

● STLA Large, with a range up to 800 kilometers/500 miles

● STLA Frame, with a range up to 800 kilometers/500 miles

Propulsion includes a family of three electric drive modules (EDM) that combine the motor, gearbox and inverter. These EDMs are compact, flexible and can be easily scaled. The EDMs can be configured for front-drive, rear-drive, all-wheel drive and 4xe.

The combination of the platforms, EDMs and high energy-density battery packs will deliver vehicles with best-in-class performance in efficiency, range and recharging.

A program of hardware upgrades and over-the-air software updates will extend the life of the platforms well into the next decade. Stellantis will develop software and controls in-house to maintain the characteristics unique to each brand.

Battery packs will be tailored for a variety of vehicles – from smaller city cars to energy-dense packs for performance vehicles and trucks. Use of two battery chemistries is planned by 2024 to support various customer needs: a high energy-density option and a nickel cobalt-free alternative. By 2026, the first competitive solid state battery technology is targeted to be introduced.


“Our electrification journey is quite possibly the most important brick to lay as we start to reveal the future of Stellantis just six months after its birth, and now the entire company is in full execution mode to exceed every customer’s expectations and accelerate our role in redefining the way the world moves,” said Carlos Tavares. “We have the scale, the skills, the spirit and the sustainability to achieve double-digit Adjusted Operating Income margins, lead the industry with benchmark efficiencies and deliver electrified vehicles that ignite passion.”

Ciudat, sa iti arăți lipsa de inspirație cu atâta nonșalanță !?

Alfa e-Romeo? Atata s-a putut, practic.

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"If you can't go fast with 90 horsepower, 900 horsepower won't help you" - B.H.

Dupa un 4C fara asistare de nici un fel a directiei, dupa o directie electrica muncita mult pe Giulia/Stelvio sa nu para un volan de Playstation din 1994, dupa ce nume importante din media auto contemporana numesc brandul ca fiind "inima industriei auto", e greu sa servesti ceva credibil in piata pentru ceea ce cred eu ca vor fi probabil niste platforme absolut nedezirabile, automobilistic vorbind, dar care probabil vor arata ok sau bine. Oricum generatiile ce vor urma nu vor sti ce inseamna cu adevarat o Alfa. Noi am prins probabil ultimele generatii care sa mai prinda spiritul marcii. Desi si aici, cei mai puristi vor spune ca nu sunt decat niste platforme Fiat matrasite in fel si chip.

Asta ma duce cu gandul la o poveste a unui amic fermier care s-a dus in vizita in Olanda, acum ceva timp, pentru un schimb de experiente, sa invete doamne cum se face agricultura. A gustat un ardei si i-a zis fermierului local ca nu are gust, cum poate sa vanda asa ceva. Replica a venit destul de onesta: pai oamenii din ziua de azi oricum nu stiu ce gust are in adevar ardeiul, asa ca asta e gustul pe care il vor sti, chit ca este, chit ca nu este.

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147 1.9 Mjet 16V
166 3.2 v6

Trist, dar adevarat.
Iar sincer vorbind, alimentatia ne loveste mai tare decat pierderea esentei unui constructor auto.
Da, nefardat mesajul, asa este, insa direct. "e" -ul spune tot: din 2024 Alfa Romeo va fi doar electrica. Asta este cel mai important aspect.

Cam da, 916/932/936/937 mi se pare ca sunt ultimele "analogice", electronica minima, feedback din belsug.
Nu stiu de ce ai interpretat ca din 2024 toata gama va fi doar electrica din motto-ul respectiv.

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It`s an Alfa Romeo thing, you wouldn`t understand.

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Alfa Romeo se electrifica din 2022 prin modelul Tonale, care va fi (plug-in) hibrid.
Stellantis spune ca Alfa va deveni e-Romeo din 2024.
--> Am dedus ca toate modelele care vor fi produse incepand din 2024 vor fi doar electrice.

Din 2024 toate vor fi hybrid, in oricare dintre declinarile posibile: mhev, hev, phev etc sau full EV.

Alfa et Romeo

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"If you can't go fast with 90 horsepower, 900 horsepower won't help you" - B.H.

Din 2024 toate modelele noi Alfa Romeo vor fi doar electrice. Merge pe o bere?

si,cica in loc de sarpele de pe emblema o sa puna o priza...

l.e."However, reports suggest that there will be more symbols and promotional media on the cars. This includes a tweak to the iconic Visconti serpent which will likely represent an electric plug. On a different note, Stellantis revealed that there will be electric versions of the Biscione and Tonale models."


https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-ne ... q1RqJV9AlU

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alfa romeo gt 1.9 jtdm
ex. alfa romeo gt jtd,150 cp
ex.alfa romeo 145 1.9 jtd
ex. audi 100 2.0 D
ex.bmw 520i
ex.lancia prisma 1.9 TD
ex.olcit

Da, cam asta am dedus si eu din "motto"-ul lor.
Asta cu "e-Romeo" cred ca e mai degraba o sageata catre directia pe care o vor adopta...integrarea sistemelor hibride cum zicea si colegul goldfinger.
Ei (AR) inca pot sa mai capitalizeze o perioada pe motoare termice, dar intr-un final vorbim vorbe, la cat de des si-au schimbat in ultimii ani strategia si managementul...cred ca nu ar mai surpinde pe nimeni cu nimic.

Sa vedem intai Tonale iesit pe linia de productie.
Pe conceptul Tonale, capul sarpelui chiar este un stecher, nu mi-am dat seama pana acum

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La Veloce Vita: Olio Acqua Benzina & Veloce

It`s an Alfa Romeo thing, you wouldn`t understand.

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